The theme.. goes bad between Mozilla and İnternet Explorer..

ebb11 · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 9:48 am
Copy link

Add topic to favorites
Since I am using Mozilla, I never realized that my page appears bad in internet explorer..

In Mozilla the side bar is as is it shown in the “theme” picture:
http://ozanoz.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/1.jpg

However, if I open the page with internet explorer, it is like that:
http://ozanoz.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/2.jpg

What does that mean? Any solution?
tiamatsdisciple · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 10:10 am
Copy link
It’s not the them. I used the same theme for a while and had no troubles with IE7 showing it. Have you altered the CSS in any way?
cornell · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 10:12 am
Copy link
I ran your blog through the HTML validator and it came back with 47 errors:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fozanoz.wordpress.com%2F

Most of these you can do nothing about, but, do you change the font in your blog? The only thing I can think is that you have left a font tag open. Mozilla generally just copes with these but IE in its usual suckiness mucks up the whole page layout.

Don’t worry too much about most of them, I would have a look at the points at number 2 and number 9 in the link above and see if they are causing the problem.

And, thanks for providing the jpg files, It meant that I didn’t have to start IE on my PC! :)

Collin
ebb11 · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 10:20 am
Copy link
No, I didn’t even buy the Upgrade to change the CSS.

Things that I change are only in “post screen”. I change the writing font, and add custom pictures..

I tried with an another theme and it was bad again when viewing with IE. But Mozilla runs it without problem.. What can I do now? delete the whole posts? delete the whole blog:)

I think that I cannot check all the posts for looking any missing “<” or “>” :)

Please.. Is there any way to correct this?
ebb11 · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 10:26 am
Copy link
It works fine with this theme: “Freshy by Jide” Both in IE and Mozilla..

http://ozanoz.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/3.jpg
http://ozanoz.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/4.jpg

So what is it? Is it because of the theme…??
ebb11 · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 10:33 am
Copy link
I checked with several themes. In some themes, internet explorer doesn’t show the page properly. But Mozilla is working with all. The themes that I want doesn’t work with internet explorer :(
katm · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 11:22 am
Copy link
It’s not the theme. You need to check and make sure all of your font tags are closed.

A quick search of the source using Find in Firefox shows this is the first font tag that isn’t closed.

 <a href="http://ozanoz.wordpress.com/2007/06/02/allah-bizi-utandirmayacaktir-ertugrul-saglam/#more-144" class="more-link">Yazının devamını oku »</a>

I don’t know if there are others or not as I didn’t search any further than that.
ebb11 · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 12:06 pm
Copy link
How could you find that? Is there any easy way for it? Or do I have to check them all?
katm · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 12:17 pm
Copy link
In Firefox, right click on your blog. Choose “view source”. It should pop up a new window.

Then control-f to bring up the find function. In the search box type <font

that will show you the first instance of the font tag. Use the scroll bar to scroll right and make sure that font tag is closed. Then go back to the search bar and click “next”. It will take you to the next font tag. Make sure it’s closed.

Rinse and repeat.

Or try this output from the validator. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fozanoz.wordpress.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1&verbose=1

It will show your source as well, but the line numbers in the validation information will line up with the source (it’s not a one to one match if you use the line numbers from the validator and the line numbers in the Firefox source).
ebb11 · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 1:52 pm
Copy link
katm, thank you very much..

as a last thing..

I think to change to fonts, .. etc.. I am using the false codes.. although they really make effects..

I looked your site for example.. Your font stile is verdana, right?

What command do you use it when posting? It isn’t the default font as far as I know..

I am using: 

After I write the whole post, and organized the bolt, italic, allign thins.. after all.. I put in the the “code section” the “” part above and the “” to the end. And when I change to “visual” and come back to “code” it automatically puts to the beginnig of every paragraf this “” and to the ends of paragraphs this “”.

Is my code wrong, or what? Can you please clearly explain to change the font..?
cornell · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Copy link
Um, did I dream my first reply with all that information in this thread?
katm · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Copy link
Whatever font is on my blog is the default for the theme. I usually don’t do too much with HTML formatting. My patience isn’t that great.
atthe404 · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Copy link
It is going to be a shame – albeit an understandable situation – if folks without the CSS upgrade are lured down the very sinister path of inline styling. It is not a *good thing*.
timethief · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Copy link
@atthe404
Would you please explain the downside of of inline styling to us?
katm · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 9:00 pm
Copy link
The point of CSS (AFAIK) is to keep the style separate from the content. By formating text using plain old HTML, you’re mixing the two. As far as I can tell, most of web development is moving towards using CSS rather than inline HTML.

I don’t think it’s as important on a blog as it is on a set of regular pages, but take this example.

You do your webpage using CSS. Six months down the line, you decide you want to change from black, Times New Roman text to purple, Ariel text. It’s just a matter of changing one or two items in your CSS. But if you were using inline HTML, you have to change every single instance of the font tags.

It’s a silly example, but it sort of demonstrates the power of CSS.

(which is why I need to get off my duff and start learning CSS)
cornell · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Copy link
@TT: Inline styling is exactly what the OP is doing. Putting fonts tags directly into the post so that they can get certain elements to look how they want without purchasing the CSS upgrade. Of course, it’s fairly restrictive but there are a few things you can do.

Yes katm, most web development worth anything these days is using CSS. Inline styling (along with table based layout) is out the window. Of course, this is hijacking the OP’s thread.
timethief · Member · Jun 3, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Copy link
@katm and cornell
Thanks for explaining the downside of of inline styling to me. It’s exactly what I thought but as I have no css skills I wanted to be sure.
ebb11 · Member · Jun 4, 2007 at 8:29 am
Copy link
Firstly, Thanks for the answers.

The matter about the font style;

I prefer more readable (?) font styles in my posts..

the original text styles in the themes are mostly choosen according to the design of the theme. The providers choose mostly the style “what looks good” rather than “what is flexible to read” The readibility is not the first priority for them.. For me… of course I prefer a font style that is more easy to read.. that’s all the matter..
atthe404 · Member · Jun 5, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Copy link
The big benefit of CSS is that content is seperated from style. More specifically they are actually in different files. That delivers huge advantages if it is implemented in an uncompromised manner. Inline styling eg: putting font colors – back into the index is very tempting when a user does not have the CSS upgrade. But in the long run it is a messy habit. Quite understandable here – but if possible – to be avoided. IMHO.
timethief · Member · Jun 5, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Copy link
@atthe404
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it.

No items found.