Twenty Seventeen: can't find 'Them options' button

  • Unknown's avatar

    I’d like to have one column on my blog and the info for ‘Twenty Seventeen’ tells me this:
    ‘On pages, Twenty Seventeen allows you to pick between a one- and two-column layout. This is a global setting rather than something you set per-page, and is managed in Customizer → Theme Options.’

    So I’ve looked under my ‘customizer’, but there is no ‘theme options’ category. I have checked under ‘contents options’ and all of the others but I can not find ‘theme options’ anywhere.

    Thanks!

    The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)

  • Unknown's avatar

    > So I’ve looked under my ‘customizer’

    You’re close:

    Customize –> Static Front Page –> Set ‘Front page displays’ to ‘A static page’ –> save –> go back to Customize.

    Now you should see ‘Theme Options’ below ‘Static Front Page’.

    I find this very confusing, myself.

  • Unknown's avatar

    > I’d like to have one column on my blog

    Same here.

    You’ll find that changing Page Layout to One Column will affect your pages, but not your blog posts.

    You’ll need to add some custom CSS to get to a one columns layout for your blog posts; I can link to the code I’m using if you’d like to try.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Yes, please can I have the code though may not use it for a bit as still getting my head round the basics!

    Thanks!

  • Unknown's avatar

    @everydaykindoflife

    custom CSS to get to a one columns layout for your blog posts

    If your theme provides that capability https://wordpress.com/theme/twentyseventeen then you can do it free of charge.

    If not, then you will require an upgrade do do any CSS editing.

    See here for details on purchasing an annually renewable Premium or Business plan https://wordpress.com/pricing/ that contains a custom design upgrade required for CSS editing.

    Note 1: Once you have the required upgrade you can use this link https://en.forums.wordpress.com/forum/css-customization#postform so you can create a thread that will appear in the CSS Forum where you will get the help you need with CSS editing.

    Note 2: You can also post there prior to purchasing an upgrade to get an answer to whether or not what you want to do can be accomplished via CSS editing.

  • Unknown's avatar

    @manuschwendener,

    Customize –> Static Front Page –> Set ‘Front page displays’ to ‘A static page’ –> save –> go back to Customize.

    As I said in the topic 2 -> 1 column in Theme options? wherein you gave the advice “In Twenty Seventeen, Theme Options only show up in Customize after you have set Static Front Page to A static page,” this is incorrect. It is not necessary to switch to static front page in order to display Theme Options on the Twenty Seventeen theme (See below, or see my explanation in the other topic).

    @everydaykindoflife,

    @manuschwendener
    ,

    At Customize on Twenty Seventeen, Theme Options will appear as long as your are not displaying either the blog page or a single post in the Customize viewer So Theme Options will appear if you are displaying a static page or an archives page in the Customize viewer.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Correction:

    Theme Options will appear if you are not displaying either the blog page or a single post in the Customize viewer. So Theme Options will appear if you are displaying a static page or an archives page in the Customize viewer.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Theme Options will, presumably, also appear if you are displaying the portfolio page, a project, a testimonial, and Search results. “Archives pages” include the following author and date (year, month, day) archives
    category pages (post categories)
    tag archives pages (post tags)
    project type archives
    project tag archives
    etc.

  • Unknown's avatar

    …and Search results

    Correction:
    It didn’t display on search results in my tests.

  • Unknown's avatar

    > this is incorrect

    In my eyes this is what happens: people can’t find the theme options in Twenty Seventeen, I describe what I had to do to see them, which seems to work for them, too.

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    > Yes, please can I have the code though may not use it for a bit

    This is what worked for me: https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/twenty-seventeen-customize-display-posts-listing?replies=6#post-2946864

    Result: https://manuschwendener.ch/blog

    You’d need the Premium or Business Plan to add that code (CSS then becomes an additional ‘Chapter’ in the Customizer). https://wordpress.com/pricing

    If your blog posts consist mainly of text I’m not sure https://everydaykindoflife.wordpress.com would look better if you were using the whole width, though.

  • Unknown's avatar

    @manuschwendener,

    What you suggest will work, but its a completely unnecessary step. If the member prefers to display posts on the front page, and it’s not necessary to switch to displaying a static page on the front page in order to accomplish their goal, then it wouldn’t be prudent to suggest that they must take this step in order to display Theme Options at Customize. If they have a link to a static page displayed in a menu on their site, then they may click that link in the viewer at Customize to cause Theme Options to be displayed there. This doesn’t require any change regarding what’s set to display on the front page.

    On the other hand, it appears that the theme authors might be making some changes, because I now find that if you display archives pages (of all kinds) or search results in the Customize viewer Theme Options will flicker momentarily but fail to appear. This differs from the results I found on 22 May and reported in the topic 2 -> 1 column in Theme options?

    Nevertheless, you can still produce the Theme Options link at Customize by displaying any static page there (in the Customize veiwer, or “previewer”). With respect to the OP’s site, displaying either the “About” or “Contact” page at Customize would do the trick, without requiring a change to what is displayed as the front page.

  • Unknown's avatar

    All I can say: I find it very confusing that the Theme Options sometimes are visible and sometimes aren’t – and I’m not the only one.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Agreed. : -)
    I was in disbelief when I first found out that Customize was designed that way, to hide some options on certain pages, so that the member (particularly a new or inexperienced member) might never find the option that the theme guide says should be there, and furthermore that WordPress.com did not consider this bad design and had no intention of changing it.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hi there, Theme Options in the Customizer are, or can be, contextual and will show when you are viewing a page in the customizer that those options would apply to. In the case of Twenty Seventeen, when you have a static front page set and are viewing that page in the Customizer, both the page layout and the Front Page Sections will show. If you are viewing a different page, such as a contact or about page, only the Layout options will appear since the Front Page Sections would not apply to that page.

    There is discussion around this, but it might provide more confusion if it was shown all the time on all pages. The example that comes to mind would be if you were viewing your Blog page in the Customizer. If the Page Layout options appeared in Theme Options while viewing your Blog page in the Customizer, you may think that you could set your blog page to either one or two Columns, which you cannot.

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    @thesacredpath,

    Hi! Thanks for responding.

    In the case of Twenty Seventeen, when you have a static front page set and are viewing that page in the Customizer, both the page layout and the Front Page Sections will show. If you are viewing a different page, such as a contact or about page, only the Layout options will appear since the Front Page Sections would not apply to that page.

    This is not the results that I obtain in tests. What I find, with Twenty Seventeen applied, is that Theme Options will display at Customize only if you are viewing a static page in the Customize viewer, and that all other options appear at Customize whether you are viewing a static page, a post, the blog page, or a post archives page. This holds true whether the front page is set to display a static page or the latest posts.

    I’m not sure what you mean by “Front Page Sections,” but I found no case where only “Layout options” appear, unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean by “Layout options.”

  • Unknown's avatar

    Correction:

    These are not the results…”

  • Unknown's avatar

    > There is discussion around this, but it might provide more confusion
    > if it was shown all the time on all pages. The example that comes to
    > mind would be if you were viewing your Blog page in the Customizer.
    > If the Page Layout options appeared in Theme Options while viewing
    > your Blog page in the Customizer, you may think that you could set
    > your blog page to either one or two Columns, which you cannot.

    What I would have found less confusing as a new Twenty Seventeen user would have been:

    – Theme Options are always visible, always in the same place = below ‘Static Front Page’ in the Customizer.

    – On the pages where there are no Theme Options to choose from, I can still click on “Theme Options”, but then get to see a text ‘There are no theme options for the Blog page’

    [That I also think the Blog page should be available in the one column layout is another discussion ;-) ]

  • Unknown's avatar

    Or:

    – Theme Options are always visible, always in the same place, but when there are no options to choose from, you already tell me before the click:


    Widgets
    Static Front Page
    No Theme Options for Blog

    Then the line “No Theme Options for Blog” doesn’t need to be clickable.

  • Unknown's avatar

    @thesacredpath,

    I see now what you where referring to. Under “Theme Options,” there are “Page Layout” and “Front Page Section” (1-3) options. This goes beyond what we were discussing previously, and I hadn’t noticed it. However, it doesn’t address the issue that “Theme Options” itself appears or doesn’t appear depending upon what type of content is displayed in the Customize viewer.

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