Twenty Ten Problems
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Thanks TSP & TT. As I didn’t change the Settings when I changed themes, Google will not be affected! Not that I ever expect Google to deliver me a wealth of traffic, given my topic! LOL
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2010 has many great qualities – see how we are using it I think pretty well at http://www.WorldStreets.wordpress.com – but there are two points on which I think it could be usefully upgraded. In order of importance:
1. Comments: Since this is what many blogs are all about — collaborative knowledge building – the Comments tag should be on the top line just under the post title, following date, author. If we follow best practices – which are usually yours – we will have something like xy Comments (xy being the number of comments), clicking which will take the reader directly to all existing comments, plus the slot to make one. For clarity it might be best to place them toward the right of that top line.
2. Widgets: Collapsing Widgets?
The idea here is to make the right column more compact with Drop-down menus like the one that . works so nicely under Select Categories. It would be great if the reader would see the following simple entry links for
a. Recent Posts
b. Recent Comments
c. Top rated.This would give us a great economy of space and allow the reader to access what she really wants to.
It would be great if someone could please let me know about this. Not least because I believe it will be in the interest of many WP users, and all who think that 2010 is the star act.
Eric Britton. http://www.WorldStreets.wordpress.com. (email visible only to moderators and staff) Skype: newmobility
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It would be great if someone could please let me know about this. <.blockquote> We Volunteers are not decision makers. Only Staff make decisions. I have flagged this thread so they will take note of it and reply to you.
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Thanks for the Twenty Ten suggestions! Hiding of title text might be a good idea for a future upgrade to Twenty Ten. We’ll keep it in mind. If you’re looking for a theme similar to Twenty Ten that allows you to hide the title text you might want to check out Coraline.
The comments link location is unlikely to change in Twenty Ten but we do have other themes that have more prominent comments links. Duster is one that immediately comes to mind.
Lastly, drop down, or Accordian, widgets. That’s a neat idea. I don’t think any of our current batch of themes have widgets that work that way but I could potentially see a future theme doing something like that. Something else I might recommend for sites where content should stand out more, is a one-column theme.
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Thanks themeshaper,
About the Comments location! This is a real problem for us, and precisely resulting from the fact that in our view 2010 is so much better than the rest, at least for our purposes as you can see at http://www.WorldStreets.wordpress.com And believe me before bothering you I checked out every one of the 116 themes you have developed, on multiple occasions. And this is by far the one that is best adapted. And to which I have committed with something like 708 original postings and 1542 images, many of them truly splendid. So you can I am sure well understand why we hesitate to settle for anything that is not so well adapted to our innovative style.
(We see this kind of interaction and adaption in our own work on transport and cities. People get cars, move out of the center, and the city loses its centrality and soul. The car is the medium, and the city is the message that gets sent.)
Glad you like the idea of the Accordion, drop down widgets. I am sure that could be a winner.
Finally is there any way I could get in touch directly with the developers of 2010. If I had the code I could write it myself. We are talking about something like ten minutes of code. And for what great and powerful results. It will be your product that is thus much improved.
Sorry to be so hard headed, but it’s the only way I ever get anything done.
Best/Eric Britton
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@Eric, typically when someone wants to make a comment it is after they have read and scrolled down through a post, and if the comment link is at the top of the post, then they have to scroll back up to the top of the post in order to click the comment button, or the post title to get to the single post page.
Secondly, at least the posts I’ve seen all have the “more” tag, which means that to read the entire post, the people have to click that tag, which takes them to the single-post page, which is where the comments are.
Also, I don’t know about your site, but on a day to day stats basis, my “home” page is seldom in the top ten pages/posts for hits. The top ten each day consist of single post pages that people have arrived at either from an email subscription, or from a search engine.
We cannot edit the underlying theme files here since this is a multi-user platform and we all share the same underlying theme and wordpress files. If you were allowed to change that, then it would change it for everyone using 2010.
Here is one suggestion that can be done through the CSS upgrade.
Also with the CSS upgrade, I can move the comment link up to top right, but I have to adjust a few other things so that they don’t end up running over the comments link. It could be that @hallluke could position things in such a way that it would flow with the rest of the stuff, I don’t know. Here is an example.
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Eric, if you’d like to try out Custom CSS the two examples above should work. if you’d like to get your hands on the Twenty Ten code it’s freely available with WordPress itself at WordPress.org (It’s the current default theme) or from the WordPress.org Themes Directory. But you’d have to be managing your own installation of WordPress to run the changes.
That said, we’re always launching new themes. :) If Twenty Ten is just slightly off in that 1 spot I can guarantee that there will be more elegant and minimal themes on the way that highlight comments links in different ways. And more themes. And more themes after that. :)
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Dear timethief, sacredpath, timesharer.
You are as good as gold and I am, frankly, amazed as well as grateful at how helpful you are. And yet I really should not be since that is exactly the principle that we use on World Streets, collaborative problems solving. Still it’s a great feeling.
In addition, I just received the following form a Happiness Engineer which is dead on: ” Thanks for your suggestions! Work has already started on a new Twenty Eleven theme so I’m not sure if these would make it into Twenty Ten; but may be good candidates for the upcoming theme.”
So here is what I have done, thinking that it might give us an efficient platform for this next stage version of this fabulous platform that 2010 gives us. I have simply started a new item here under the title ” Twenty Eleven theme” – https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/twenty-eleven-theme?replies=1
I hope I have done the right thing here to lay the base for efficient communications to the 2011 team.
Thanks again, and when you get to Paris you have a free tour on our shared Vélib bikes waiting for you. I promise.
Eric Britton
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