URL Location Of Images
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Does this mean my site isn’t portable, unless I were to manually reinstall all the images on all the pages?
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Anything that can import a WordPress export file will also be able to bring over the images, no worries there. :)
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Right now the image URLs in the HTML for all my pages points to your domain.
If I were to move my site to another host, how would this code be edited so that the image URLs were then in my domain?
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1) So on another host my images would be in my domain, but on this host they have to be in your domain. Other hosts can do what WP.com can not.
2) I hear you saying that if I move to another host my HTML will automatically be edited to point to images that are in my domain.
Can you please confirm that 1 and 2 above are true.
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Hi there,
1) So on another host my images would be in my domain, but on this host they have to be in your domain. Other hosts can do what WP.com can not.
Images and all other files are not stored on domains. They’re stored on the site. Right now the URLs you’re seeing are structured that way because of the images are served through our CDN.
There are many CDN providers out there, so no, WordPress.com is not unique in that respect. The only difference is that our CDN feature is offered for free.
2) I hear you saying that if I move to another host my HTML will automatically be edited to point to images that are in my domain.
Yes, that’s true. With the export-import process, your site will adapt to your new host’s structure.
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Um, in 25 years of building sites, this is the first time I’ve met a host who wants my images to be within their domain.
Um, your CDM is not offered for free. I’m paying $100 per year for it. I know there are many free users here, so perhaps you didn’t realize that I’m a paying customer.
How will my site adapt to a different host’s structure? Will the HTML of all pages be automatically edited to point to an image directory within my domain?
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your CDM is not offered for free. I’m paying $100 per year for it.
The CDN is included on all WordPress.com sites, even the free ones. What you’re paying for is the Premium plan that gives you additional features compared to the free one. One of those features is personalized support so, remember that you can also reach us via live chat directly from https://wordpress.com/help/contact.
How will my site adapt to a different host’s structure? Will the HTML of all pages be automatically edited to point to an image directory within my domain?
Once you’ve imported your content to the new host, the URL of the media files will be updated to show your custom domain. That is, unless your new host is not using some kind of CDN.
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Once you’ve imported your content to the new host, the URL of the media files will be updated to show your custom domain.
Do I understand you correctly to be saying the HTML files will be edited to change all image URLs?
Do I understand you correctly to be saying this process is fully automated?
Unless…
That is, unless your new host is not using some kind of CDN.
Do I understand you correctly to be saying that the automated transfer process is not a feature of all WordPress sites, but is dependent on what hosting system a particular host uses?
If yes, then the updating of URLs in the HTML might or might not be automated, depending on the particular host? Correct?
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Here’s why I’m pounding away on this. I need to know how portable my site is before I invest a ton more time in creating it here on WP.com.
In 25 years I’ve not seen this issue before so I’m contacting multiple sources and hoping to get them to all agree on an answer, so as to get to the best possible understanding. As the above discussion seems to indicate, the issue is a bit muddled and there may not be one correct perfect answer, so I’m having to weigh the various variables so I understand them.
I’m a happy customer so far, but there are reasons why I might need to, or choose to, move to another host at some point. Should that day come, I don’t want to start my education on this topic on that day.
I did research CDN and so now have a basic understanding of what that is all about.
Thanks for your inputs.
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Do I understand you correctly to be saying the HTML files will be edited to change all image URLs?
Do I understand you correctly to be saying this process is fully automated?Yes, that is correct, the URLs will be updated automatically after importing the content.
Do I understand you correctly to be saying that the automated transfer process is not a feature of all WordPress sites, but is dependent on what hosting system a particular host uses?
Let’s just clarify that WordPress.com and WordPress.org, from where you’d download your WordPress software to use with another host are two different entities.
On WordPress.com Jetpack features (like the already mentioned CDN) are inbuilt while on WordPress.org you’ll need to install Jetpack plugin to use those. That said, by default, a self-hosted site will use your custom domain in the media files URLs. Now, if your host is using some other CDN, it might not work that way. If that’s something important to you, I’d suggest inquiring about it before purchasing the hosting. -
Thank you again. Ok, so the bottom line is that an automated migration depends on the tools available to the receiving host.
Perhaps this will help?
Question: Given the size of WP.com I would assume many people have moved their WP.com sites to some other host for some reason or another. This would be true of any large host. Have you guys answered these questions many times before? If not, that would perhaps suggest that the transfer process typically goes without a hitch and so most users have no need to get involved in this subject.
Next question: I know how to download the text content and media, very simple. Is it equally simple to import all that data in to a new site? Would you expect that I should be able to effect a transfer by myself, or would you expect that I am likely to be dependent on the receiving host to complete the transfer?
My experience level is that I have coded my own blog network hosting software from scratch, but am obviously a WordPress newbie.
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I would assume many people have moved their WP.com sites to some other host for some reason or another.
That’s right. Folks typically follow these steps: https://move.wordpress.com/
That is the process to move from our managed hosting environment here at WordPres.com to using the open source WordPress.org software with a different hosting provider. This is what you’re working towards, right?
Is it equally simple to import all that data in to a new site?
Yep. You should not have any issues using an exported WordPress.com file and importing it on to a new WordPress.org site.
It’s worth mentioning that there’s a similar forum community that only deals with WordPress.org questions. So, if you run in to question, and the hosting provider doesn’t offer WordPress support, you can turn there. It’s at https://wordpress.org/support/forums/
Would you expect that I should be able to effect a transfer by myself, or would you expect that I am likely to be dependent on the receiving host to complete the transfer?
You can move the site from WordPress.com to WordPress.org on your own.
I hope that helps clear things up :)
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Aha! Thank you for the link, that is indeed what I need to be reading.
I’m not trying to move right now, I just needed some reassurance that if I did move I wouldn’t be manually reinstalling 6,345 images. :-)
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Ok, so I tested exporting my Premium site (REAL BLOG) to the backup files, and then importing the backup files in to a free WP.com account I use for testing (TEST BLOG). Here’s what I see so far:
1) As you reported above, the images seem to transfer to the new site without difficulty. Yea!
2) POSTS: As best I can tell, all the posts transfer without a problem.
3) PAGES: The home page and all other pages seem to be missing.
4) I have to reinstall widgets on the new site. Not really a problem, in my case at least.
Summary: The bulk of the text and image data does transfer in a simple easy manner, but the transfer process is not fully automated. As best I can tell at this time, the missing pages seem to be the biggest issue.
If it helps to compare the real blog and the test blog, here are URLs.
REAL BLOG: https://nuke-ban.org/
TEST BLOG: https://testnuke.home.blog/
(private at this time, if an obstacle let me know)————
Details: The list of categories in sidebar is changed. Category “history” changed to lower case instead of capitalized. Blog Feed is missing, Uncategorized is added. Home link is gone. Clicking category links now takes you to blog feed instead of the pages for that category, All this probably related to the missing pages throughout the site.
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3) PAGES: The home page and all other pages seem to be missing.
This would only be the case if you exported posts only.
I see a total of 21 pages on https://testnuke.home.blog/, so all your pages imported, and you’ll see them if you go to My Site ->Site ->Pages on that site.
You’re not seeing them on the site itself because you have no menu set up on the test site that links to your pages, and your homepage is missing because a different, empty page is currently set as the front page. You can change what page is set as front page from the Customizer:
4) I have to reinstall widgets on the new site. Not really a problem, in my case at least.
Widgets are part of your theme, and like the theme cannot be exported and migrated to another site as that’s not considered site content. The menu, likewise, is part of the theme, which is why a menu linking to your pages is missing on the new site. You’ll need to create a new menu on that site to make your pages visible, and you’ll need to reconfigure any widgets you’d like to use.
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I see a total of 21 pages on https://testnuke.home.blog/, so all your pages imported, and you’ll see them if you go to My Site ->Site ->Pages on that site.
Ok, thanks, correct, the pages are there.
You’re not seeing them on the site itself because you have no menu set up on the test site that links to your pages
The categories menu is there in the sidebar. It points to pages on the real site. On the test site the categories menu points to the blog feed.
and your homepage is missing because a different, empty page is currently set as the front page. You can change what page is set as front page from the Customizer:
That works, thanks.
The menu, likewise, is part of the theme, which is why a menu linking to your pages is missing on the new site. You’ll need to create a new menu on that site to make your pages visible,
Here’s where I’m confused. I just tried deleting the category menu in the sidebar and recreating it in the customizer. It still links to the blog feed instead of the pages, as it does on the real site. Suggestions on fixing this?
I’m curious, do you understand why widgets and themes are not transferable? It seems like the export/import process is pretty close to being perfect, and it’s a shame that as it stands they can’t really claim the process is automated.
I’m not worried about any of this, as I’m not planning on moving at the moment and just trying to learn WP. But for example, if my wife was trying to move a WP site the remaining limitations of the transfer process would be a pretty big obstacle.
Thanks again for your replies.
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