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Why do we have to rely on external mailing lists to get a subscriber pop up?

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    diaryofdennis · Member · Feb 19, 2017 at 3:42 pm
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    Apart from the fact that I am extremely happy with wordpress.com, there are also some points where I really ask myself why wp.com doesn’t introduce some more important feature on their own…

    So, without telling me the standard phrase “For full flexibility set up a selfhosted installation” (I am here since 2011 and won#t change it), what exactly is the reason that we do for example have to rely on external mailing list providers like mailchimp to create a subscription windows for a wordpress.com blog?

    Here are some things that I have in my mind:

    – Having two different subscription channels (wp.com email followers + mailchimp) doesn’t make sense at all.

    – Using external services is just bad for the user, I mean it’s not that I have to few accounts in the web.

    – It seems strange that one of the greatest blogging platforms has trouble to integrate “industry-standard” tools.

    – Emails of subscribers are the gold of the internet, letting an external company watch into this gold pot seems even more strange. Who can you trust more? Wp.com or MailChimp? I myself trust wp.com more to handle it.

    – The basic structure is already there. We can follow widgets and we can get subscribers via wp.com. We can even create sigh-up forms. All what is missing is the option to get it right into the faces of NEW visitors on a non-spammy way. Like showing a subsciption pop up to NEW website visitors, after a period of time.

    – The wp.com premium plan seems to be worthless as it is now, there is nothing that would set it apart from the free plan (if you want to know why I think that, I can explain by talking about every single premium feature). With that said, what would set the premium plan apart would be advanced features like the one I mentioned… pop-ups. This is in fact just one example, but some very basic features are missing, and I think the premium plan would be a perfect fit where you could introduce features like this one.

    I know, I know… whenever you try to sugggest features that would improve wordpress.com, an uninterested stranger will probably come along and say how nobody needs the suggested feature. So, in case you are such a person, let me tell you right away that I am not interested to battle this out with a troll… this here, this post is a pure suggestion directed to wp.com staff.

    Please see this as feedback. Start to improve the service please.. I am here since 2011 and quite loyal since you offer a great platform and cloud hosting without the hassle of dealing with random hosting companies that disappear over night or that kick you out of the contract because your website eats up the bandwidth of all other blogs sitting on the same server. However, for all the good you are doing, I really wish you would also introduce essential blogging features more often, as the subscription pop-up.

    The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)

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    gemmacevans · Member · Feb 20, 2017 at 5:06 pm
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    Hello diaryofdennis,

    Glad to hear you are extremely happy with WordPress.com!

    what exactly is the reason that we do for example have to rely on external mailing list providers like mailchimp

    MailChimp is currently a supported service because it enables WordPress.com users to build a database of email subscribers and email those subscribers using MailChimp’s existing templates and services. For this reason, the feature isn’t currently integrated into WordPress.com itself.

    The wp.com premium plan seems to be worthless as it is now, there is nothing that would set it apart from the free plan

    The Premium plan includes all of the Free plan features, plus a few extras:

    • Access to email & Live Chat Support
    • 13GB of storage space — which is quite a bit more than the Free plan provides
    • The option to monetize your site with WordAds
    • VideoPress support
    • Advanced design customization

    If you want to compare all of our plans in more detail, check out this page:

    https://wordpress.com/pricing/

    Please see this as feedback. Start to improve the service please..

    I appreciate you taking the time to give us your feedback! I will pass this on to our developers to bear in mind for future updates :)

    Many thanks!

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    timethief · Member · Feb 20, 2017 at 5:18 pm
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    @diaryofdennis
    As we have communicated before I want to weigh in here. I am visually challenged. I struggle to read posts. My response to any and all arrogant and presumptive pop up in my face subscribe to my blog form that appears before I have even read a full post, let alone examined the blog to assess if it’s worth following, by clicking out never to return again.

    Just saying … I hate pop ups. They are a barrier to accessibility for folks like me.

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    diaryofdennis · Member · Feb 20, 2017 at 10:02 pm
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    @gemmacevans

    Thanks for passing this suggestion on.

    As said, I am here since 2011, and I never seen a reason to go premium.

    Access to email & Live Chat Support

    (I have that without premium too)

    13GB of storage space — which is quite a bit more than the Free plan provides

    I have thousands of photos on my blog and didn’t even use 1% of the storage space of the free plan. Talking about photos, I did spot quite some people on wordpress who don’t know that you can resize images, so for them this feature might make sense. I myself do resize images for two reasons, space and loading speed of my pages. Talking about videos and sound files, there is YouTube and Soundcloud, two services that make much more sense than MailChimp.

    The option to monetize your site with WordAds

    I am WordAds member with a free plan. Just ask Google for a review and you will find me on place one.

    VideoPress support

    YouTube, that’s where things go related to videos and embedding is ok.

    Advanced design customization

    Might make sense, but I myself don’t need it. If at all, I’d prefer if this feature would be available individually for a lower price without all the premium dust features, same goes for the domain name. By the way, I am free user and have a domain inclusive private option and it costs me $26 in a year, can you see how this compares to the monthly billed premium plan? Or take things like “Remove WordPress.com Ads”…. didn’t we talk about WordAds? I am WordAds user and there is no reason that I would want to remove Ads laugh.

    I wouldn’t even want to talk about things like “Hundreds of Free Themes “, I always thought that would be some kind of a joke because we always had free themes on WordPress, even as free plan users. The lower plans are not even worth to mention, they are just that, worse than the premium plan.

    You might want to pass this along too. As said I am quite happy with WordPress, but as someone who is using the service since 2011, I never ever saw a reason to upgrade to a paid plan. I did just get my domain back then and this is working fine since ever. The business plan would be interesting but is heavily overpriced, considering that Google Analytics is the one and only highlight of the business plan.

    @timethief

    Thanks for your opinion. You have the right to leave sites that ask you with a pop up to subscribe. I am different, I follow sites if their content is my thing, and I get the points that you sometimes have to push your readers a bit to help you out. It’s like with YouTube videos… you can argue that it’s bad if they talk the first and last minute about “Please like my video and subscribe to my channel” but at the end it doesn’t matter much as long as the content inbetween is great. I’d follow them anyway.

    As it seems now, you will already find subscription pop ups on WordPress with MailChimp, you can choose not to visit these sites.

    Subscription pop ups are fine, cookies make it possible that they don’t pop up right away, and that they only pop up once. My suggestion is that we don’t have to rely on MailChimp, we should get an internal feature. Which means, my suggestion or feedback stands.

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    gemmacevans · Member · Feb 22, 2017 at 9:12 am
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    Hello,

    I myself do resize images for two reasons, space and loading speed of my pages.

    Yes, these are two very good reasons to resize images! It will also help you get the most out of your storage space too.

    My suggestion is that we don’t have to rely on MailChimp, we should get an internal feature. Which means, my suggestion or feedback stands.

    I have already passed this feedback on to the developers. I’ll also review what you have said about the WordPress.com plans too.

    Thanks!

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    diaryofdennis · Member · Feb 22, 2017 at 10:59 am
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    Thank you for passing it on. Thanks.

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    gemmacevans · Member · Feb 22, 2017 at 2:43 pm
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    You’re welcome :)

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