Can I prove somehow when I deleted an image from my media list
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Help would be very much appreciated here:
I was contacted by a lawyer on February 28, asking that I remove a copyrighted image from my blog. I removed this image the same day from my blog article as well as from my uploaded media files.
Today, March 29, I received another letter from this lawyer, claiming that the picture would have been available two weeks later via a deeplink in my blog. This was supposedly on March 16th. If I open this link today on March 29, the picture is no longer visible. But I swear, I already deleted the picture already a month ago!
Is there any way to prove that I deleted the picture in question long before March 16, namely on February 28 from wordpress.com?
The picture link in question is on the bottom of my blogentry from google-cache: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:W-ghOjO1pK0J:https://hammernich.wordpress.com/2017/01/08/warum-gehe-ich-eigentlich-noch-einkaufen/+&cd=4&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de (the yellow link with title ‘Geld regiert die Welt (Quelle: Wikipedia)’
Best regards
UweThe blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)
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I see you have tagged this for a Staff response and they will post here as soon as they can.
May I add something?
IMPORTANT NOTE: Deleting sites and/or any site content, or making the site private does not remove indexed content from the SERPs (search engine page results) and we cannot help with that. Google and Bing only clear their caches of deleted indexed content that produces a 404 (page not found) every 3 – 6 months. To completely remove an entire page from Google search results after it produces a 404 (page not found) see:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/6332384?hl=en&ref_topic=1724262&vid=0-635749429504660340-12158368555624983465&rd=1 -
Thanks, timethief. A proof would be really helpful here, as it is about much money the lawyer wants from me :-(
I know about Googles cache. The thing is that the lawyer claims that he opened the link to the image directly after I deleted the image. He doesn’t mention Googles cache. I think what he claims is not possible and I suspect that the picture in question was maybe in the lawyers browsers cache? Unfortunately, I can not prove it.
Still, a look from a Staff guy would be very helpful, hopefully.
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Hi there,
I can’t find any record of a file titled euro_mc3bcnzgeld_und_portmonee_-_nahaufnahme_geld_kleingeld_mc3bcnzen.jpg ever being uploaded to your site’s media library, and your site’s logs don’t show any media files being deleted on 28 February.
If I click on the image link in that cached post, https://hammernich.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/euro_mc3bcnzgeld_und_portmonee_-_nahaufnahme_geld_kleingeld_mc3bcnzen.jpg, it leads to a blank page. If that was a valid WordPress.com media file link it would lead to a 404 error page.
The only recently-deleted image I see on your site is https://hammernich.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/euro_mc3bcnzgeld_und_portmonee_-_nahaufnahme_geld_kleingeld_mc3bcnzen.jpg (which does lead to a 404 error page). That file was deleted on 12 March at around 8PM UTC.
When you delete any image from a WordPress.com site’s media library it is cleared from our cache within several hours, but it can still be stored in your browser’s local cache for quite some time so it might still look to you as if that file exists if you access the direct link.
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Hi kokkieh,
thank you very much for your detailed answer. Indeed, you are right. I remember now that I deleted the picture from my blog on the 12th of March, because I got the first letter from the lawyer on the 11th.
May I ask you two more specific questions:
Can you assure that the picture https://hammernich.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/euro_mc3bcnzgeld_und_portmonee_-_nahaufnahme_geld_kleingeld_mc3bcnzen.jpg in any case could not be reached nor opened/downloaded on March 16 and that instead an 404 error must have shown up in the browser after the browser cache has been cleared?
Could have been this specific image accessible on March 16 on my blog hammernich or any other WordPress servers related to this blog (i.e. hammernich.files.wordpress.com), without that I would had to actively make this possible (e.g. recover the image or uploading it again)?
Thanks for any update, it is be highly appreciated!
Best wishes
Uwe -
Can you assure that the picture https://hammernich.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/euro_mc3bcnzgeld_und_portmonee_-_nahaufnahme_geld_kleingeld_mc3bcnzen.jpg in any case could not be reached nor opened/downloaded on March 16 and that instead an 404 error must have shown up in the browser after the browser cache has been cleared?
We don’t keep a separate record of when the file is completely purged from our cache, so I cannot guarantee it, but it definitely should have been purged by that time.
Could have been this specific image accessible on March 16 on my blog hammernich or any other WordPress servers related to this blog (i.e. hammernich.files.wordpress.com), without that I would had to actively make this possible (e.g. recover the image or uploading it again)?
Even if the image was still cached on our servers, there would have been no way to restore it to your site except by re-uploading it.
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Hi again. It turns out that the lawyer from the opponent side does not seem to accept that. So this all may lead to a court hearing.
@kokkieh or whoever is responsible here: Is it possible that I get a official email from WordPress, personally addressed to myself, with the same answers from kokkieh to my questions from March 30 and March 31?
It would really help me. Here is my email address: (email visible only to moderators and staff).
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@turboscholz You’re posting in a public forum which is quickly indexed by search engines, so I’ve redacted your email from your above post. Regardless of this, Staff will be able to see your email addresss.
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Hi there,
I’ve sent an email to the email address on your account with more information. I’ll follow up with you there.
Thanks!
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